Poker Through the Eyes of an Amateur

June 25, 2007

Hand #1 Results And Hand #2

Thanks to the people that commented on my last hand. It looks like all were in agreement that this should be check-folded, and that's basically what happened.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2693777482: Main Event 100 Seat Guarantee (16050138), Table 256 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:08:16 ET - 2007/06/17
Seat 1: kaellinn18 (2,985)
Seat 2: styleWcash (3,735)
Seat 3: wouldman (2,820)
Seat 4: ASTON DBS (2,705)
Seat 5: FollowMyRuin (3,105)
Seat 6: tireman1234 (3,565)
Seat 7: BigSteveEli (1,185)
Seat 8: Bonaparte9 (3,930)
Seat 9: MadMaestro (2,970)
Bonaparte9 posts the small blind of 15
MadMaestro posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kaellinn18 [Js Ad]
kaellinn18 raises to 90
styleWcash calls 90
wouldman folds
ASTON DBS folds
FollowMyRuin has 15 seconds left to act
FollowMyRuin is sitting out
FollowMyRuin has timed out
FollowMyRuin folds
tireman1234 folds
BigSteveEli folds
Bonaparte9 folds
MadMaestro folds
*** FLOP *** [9c Qd 6d]
kaellinn18 bets 150
styleWcash calls 150
*** TURN *** [9c Qd 6d] [2h]
kaellinn18 has 15 seconds left to act
kaellinn18 checks
styleWcash checks
*** RIVER *** [9c Qd 6d 2h] [5d]
FollowMyRuin has returned
kaellinn18 has 15 seconds left to act
kaellinn18 checks
styleWcash checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kaellinn18 shows [Js Ad] Ace Queen high
styleWcash shows [8s 9s] a pair of Nines
styleWcash wins the pot (525) with a pair of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 525 | Rake 0
Board: [9c Qd 6d 2h 5d]
Seat 1: kaellinn18 showed [Js Ad] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 2: styleWcash showed [8s 9s] and won (525) with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: wouldman didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: ASTON DBS didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: FollowMyRuin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: tireman1234 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: BigSteveEli (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Bonaparte9 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: MadMaestro (big blind) folded before the Flop

I felt I was beat in this hand with his call on the flop, so I just checked it down. The flush card came on the river, but he actually just had a pair of nines. I'm not sure I would have been able to push him off of 2nd pair on the turn at any rate, as he had already called a few people down in the previous hands.

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Hand #2

This is a lot more interesting than the first hand. Here's how it went down.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2693877801: Main Event 100 Seat Guarantee (16050138), Table 256 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:19:47 ET - 2007/06/17
Seat 1: kaellinn18 (2,220)
Seat 2: styleWcash (5,090)
Seat 3: wouldman (3,020)
Seat 4: ASTON DBS (2,095)
Seat 5: FollowMyRuin (3,225)
Seat 6: tireman1234 (3,355)
Seat 7: RunninBad (3,020)
Seat 8: Bonaparte9 (3,850)
Seat 9: MadMaestro (4,145)
wouldman posts the small blind of 20
ASTON DBS posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kaellinn18 [8c 8h]
FollowMyRuin has 15 seconds left to act
FollowMyRuin folds
tireman1234 folds
RunninBad folds
Bonaparte9 calls 40
MadMaestro folds
kaellinn18 calls 40
styleWcash calls 40
wouldman calls 20
ASTON DBS checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 6s Qh]
wouldman checks
ASTON DBS checks
Bonaparte9 checks
kaellinn18 checks
styleWcash checks
*** TURN *** [5s 6s Qh] [Qs]
wouldman checks
ASTON DBS checks
Bonaparte9 checks
kaellinn18 checks
styleWcash bets 160
wouldman folds
ASTON DBS folds
Bonaparte9 folds
kaellinn18 calls 160
*** RIVER *** [5s 6s Qh Qs] [8d]
kaellinn18 has 15 seconds left to act
kaellinn18 bets 350
styleWcash has 15 seconds left to act
styleWcash raises to 880
kaellinn18 has 15 seconds left to act
kaellinn18 raises to 2,020, and is all in
styleWcash has 15 seconds left to act
styleWcash has requested TIME
styleWcash: flush no good?
styleWcash folds
Uncalled bet of 1,140 returned to kaellinn18
kaellinn18 mucks
kaellinn18 wins the pot (2,280)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,280 | Rake 0
Board: [5s 6s Qh Qs 8d]
Seat 1: kaellinn18 collected (2,280), mucked
Seat 2: styleWcash (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: wouldman (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: ASTON DBS (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: FollowMyRuin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: tireman1234 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: RunninBad didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Bonaparte9 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: MadMaestro didn't bet (folded)

Question 1: Do you limp with the 8s in the cutoff or do you raise with the limper in front to show strength and try to isolate?

Question 2: Do you bet this flop when it's checked to you? There is only one overcard, but the board is fairly coordinated for a limped pot with the 5s6s so you can almost be guaranteed at least one call.

Question 3: Do you fold to the 75%-ish bet on the turn. The 2nd queen makes it less likely that anyone else has a queen, but it did complete the flush. However, the only person to bet was the button, who may have just been betting a scary board with a high spade or one of the small pairs. In retrospect, I think this was arguably a pretty loose call by me.

Question 4: Do you push all in to the raise on the river? Do you honestly think you're beat and flat call here? I really don't see how the button would be playing Q5, Q6, or Q8. QQ would most definitely have raised preflop. I'm pretty sure I left chips on the table by pushing all in. I think I should have made a smaller raise. It was still pretty early in the tournament, though, and I was a bit jittery still so I think I panicked.

2 Comments:

  • Q1 - I limp along this early. No reason to commit a lot of chips here preflop.

    Q2 - I probably put a feeler bet out 70% and check 30%. There isn't much in the pot and you have to fold to a re-raise and put on the brakes to a flat call.

    Q3 - Call here depends on the other player. He has an above average stack. Has he been betting out at a lot of small uncontested pots? If so, his bet on the button screams of a hand like AsX. Totally player dependant. (If no read, I probably fold in early stages of a tourney.)

    Q4 - Yes, I push all-in just as you did. His bet is saying that he has a big hand and is likely to call with Qx or a flush. IMO, a smaller raise or mini-raise back looks just as strong or stronger than the push. He may have called a small re-raise with a flush, but I think your all-in is getting called almost as much as your small (almost all-in) raise. Might as well try to get the max chips when you can. There are way too many players that can't lay down a worse hand here.

    By Blogger cmitch, at 6/26/2007 1:57 PM  

  • This is an interesting hand, in that you have a paired board and a made flush by the turn. I tend to be in these hands with complete air and would of gotten in a whole bunch or trouble up against a made flush, but you actually had a hand, albeit behind at the turn. I'm shocked that he folded the RR at the river, since so many people would push all in with QK or QA. Your 8s were well disguised.

    By Blogger Eric a.k.a. Bone Daddy, at 6/28/2007 2:09 PM  

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